No. 455

There has been I am sorry to say a row between the Monitors and Masters about the old moot point of whether Monitors shall punish offences which take place in the presence of Masters. A short time ago, James the Q.S. Capt. came up to me upon coming from Morning Abbey, and said he required our attendance at a Monitors’ meeting at 9.30. a.m. He further explained to me that two small Townboys, Nesbitt and Churchill, had been disgracefully behaving themselves during Abbey, in the afternoon of two days before, namely Saturday. At 9.30. we all appeared in library, where H.N. Robson the head of Rigaud’s, advised us not to have the boys up into library until we had asked Scott’s opinion for Mr James had declared that all offences committed in Abbey were to be taken cognisance of by him. Accordingly, James and myself went to Scott, and without using any names, asked if such an offence could be punished by Monitors, quoting Mr James’ words to Dr Scott. Scott replied in the affirmative, adding that he did not recognise an such rule as the one that the masters contended for, and which I have mentioned at the top of this page. But he told us not to act, until he has spoken to Mr James, so as to prevent the possibility of an “explosion”. – With this decision we were well content – The next day Mr James and Jones both set upon me in the latter’s study, and tried to wring from me, all we had been doing; at the same time alleging that some injustice was being done, as the two boys denied the charge. Of course I was much surprised at what seemed to me such extraordinary conduct; for since the Monitors had taken no active steps, the affair was not public, nor had Mr James any right to take any notice of it. The next day (Wednesday) Robson and Poland went alone to Dr Scott and Robson tried to persuade him that the two boys were innocent. That afternoon Dr Scott sent for all the Monitors and explained to us that he thought us right in punishing such an offence. He further said that the Masters some years before had urged the introduction of the above-mentioned  rule, and then his answer had been to them, “the head-master I supreme in matters of discipline.”  This he said he meant to repeat to them, when he called his Masters’ meeting. He also told us that the two Bous had come to him to state their innocence. It then transpired that Robson had informed the two boys of the measures being taken, and advised them to have recourse to Scott, if they thought themselves innocent. He had also informed Mr James of the matter, which now explained to me that Master’s hitherto incomprehensible behaviour. This conduct of Robson’s appears to me, as to the majority of the Monitors, exceedingly ill-directed; For if he disagreed with us he ought to have informed us of that fact at the Monitors’ meeting, or at any rate, have openly given us notice of the information he was going to give to Mr James and the two Boys; instead of acting against us secretly, and so leaving us in the dark as to his real motives.

Dr Scott at the same time told us that it would never so to introduce such a rule as that depriving the Monitors of a right to act when Masters were present: He said that Masters could not see everything. And the thought no school could be properly governed, without the conjunction of the head-boys, to repress disorder, and encourage discipline …… After this we heard no more for some time; but a short time since, Mr Jones triumphantly assured me that Dr Scott compelled by a threat of resignation on the part of one of the Masters, had sanctioned a rule, and promised to frame it, to the affect that we were to be deprived of all power to punish when in the presence of Masters. Jones also told me that I was wrong in what I had sone myself, a few days before up the house, namely that I had tanned a fellow for misbehaving at prayers, a Master being present – This I would not allow. I then informed James (the Capt) of what Jones had said to me. – Nothing more was then heard of the matter for about another week; Scott neither told the Monitors anything, nor James personally. However about the 20th inst. of October, Scott gave James (the Capt) and myself, the following rule.


Rule 17

“When a Master is in charge of any form or number of boys, no offence then committed except such as the master himself could not have been cognisant of, shall be dealt with by any boy in the way of discipline. And in any such case the offender shall have the option of having the matter laid before the master in charge at the time.”


N.B. In my opinion this rule entirely releases the Monitors from any responsibility; because nearly every offence committed may be said to be done beneath the eye of a Master. The Masters will not govern the school with us, let them govern the school without us. Scott seems to me to have behaved with great weakness in the matter, although perhaps he may have been driven to it by the Masters’ threat of resignation. The Masters throughout have behaved in the lowest manner possible, especially Mr Jones and James who have taken the leading part.

No. 412

On Tuesday 11th: Nov:, Peck (Capt:) told me that there wd: be a Monitors’ meeting in Library on the following day. I therefore informed the other T.B.B. monitors: – I also learnt what was the matter, viz: that Stephenson (up Rigauds) had been seen to come down fields shortway with Janson, (who ‘though in the eleven was not in the VI. or Shell) which was contrary to rule.

On Wed: morning the meeting was held in Library, and it was resolved not to tan Stephenson, but to send for him in order to explain to him the rule, and to caution him :- he was accordingly sent for: but after waiting some time a message was brought from Robson, (head of Rigaud’s) that Stephenson was not to leave the house under any conditions: and that if any explanation were needed, the monitors were to go to Robson for it.

Peck and I, therefore, went to Scott, and explained that the Council had sent for Stephenson, and that he had been forbidden to go by Robson. Scott, therefore, went out to speak to Robson, and found that it was James who had told Robson to forbid Stephenson to go, alleging that a rule had been made by Scott that the Head of a house could prevent a fellow from being tanned (which, of course would have completely nullified the power of the Council of Monitors). Scott went in to speak to James. – The following morning Scott told the monitors to come to his house :- and there told us that his hands were, to a great measure, tied in such matters; for that, if a master would not conform to the rules of the school, he could do nothing but send that master away, which, of course, was a very serious matter:- but that any interference of the sort, which might happen in future, should be immediately brought to the head-master (which had been done) that he had never made a rule that the head of a house could prevent a tanning, and, of course, would not sanction such a thing. He talked a good deal about tanning saying that all such punishment was really attack at common-law; and that tanning for such an offence as that committed could not be defended, and that a boy should not be tanned for breaking such an arbitrary law rule: (which indeed was never contemplated) – and here the matter ended. Had it not been for the unwarrantable interference of James, this disturbance would never have arisen.

C. Ogle

Prin: Opp:

No. 411

Scott has given the following supplementary “Rules for Discipline”, to be inserted in the Ledger.

“Discipline Rules”

Oct: 1879

  1. Due notice shall be given of any proposed meeting by the Captain to the Q.S.S members, and the head town boy, and by the latter to the other T.B. members. The Captain shall be chairman of all meetings.
  2. If in any case the decision of the Council shall appear to any member thereof to be unjust; or if from any cause no valid decision should be possible; any member of the council may declare his intention of bringing the matter before the Head-Master, which he shall do without delay: and the case shall not then be dealt with until the Head-Master’s sanction has been obtained.

Copied from the College Ledger

I will put the paper on which are these rules into the box.

C. Ogle

Prin: Opp:

 

N.B. I shd: strongly advice future head Town-boys to study with the rules etc: as contained in the earlier parts of this T.B. Ledger, as frequent disputes have arisen in consequence of the conduct of the Q.S. monitors.

Cyril Ogle

Prin: Opp:

No. 383

There was a rule made some time ago that T.BB. should go round by Dean’s Yard and Q.SS. by cloisters from Early Abbey; but T.BB. in the shell have usually gone round by cloisters to avoid the crowd and to get to the houses before the others. On May 5th Burridge, a T.B. in the football eleven, but under 16 and in the remove, went round by cloisters with Westmorland, a T.B. in the shell; and was called up by the Q.S. monitors and in spite of the assurance of Westmorland that it was his (W’s) fault, was tanned, in my absence. I told Scott this, and he said that any such a punishment for such an offence could not be defended, and after speaking to the monitors for some time, said that the rule must be abolished.

No. 240

On the 15th of April 1875, the following rules about the Captains of the Elevens and the Head of the Water were passed by a meeting consisting of the Sixth Elevens and Eight.

  1. The Senior or Town Boy in the Sixth or Shell, over sixteen, who has been longest in either Eleven on the Eight is Captain of that Eleven or Head of the Water respectively.
  2. If there is no-one satisfying the above conditions in either the Eleven or in the Eight, the member of that Eleven or Eight who has been longest in it, is Captain of that Eleven or Head of the Water respectively.
  3. These rules will not come into force until the end of the next football season (Easter 1876).

After various objections had been raised and over-ruled, and several amendments proposed and rejected, the original rules were carried by a majority of 29 votes against 12, or more than two thirds.

A copy of the rules was sent to Scott and the following answer received: “No master could object to the rules you send me, and I fully approve of them. It is evidently not satisfactory that a boy low in the school should have the responsibility of managing either Fields or Water, and be the representative of the School to the outside world. The only thing that surprises me is that as many as 12 voices should be found in the minority. I suppose that it is intended that when a Q.S. is head of the Cricket Eleven, the Head Town Boy in that Eleven would be determined by the same rule: and Vice Versâ if a Town Boy is head. Probably it may be needless to define this expressly.”

L.S. Bristowe. Prin. Opp.

No. 222A

Rules of Discipline 1874

Station

  1. Station in Green for those not in the XI or XVII unless set elsewhere.
  2. All Home-boarders except those that go home in the middle of the day are subject to Station.
  3. Other rules as to Station to be made by the Heads of each House.
  4. All who are kept p school must come into Green on coming down School – No-one may go into Gymnasium after 1.15 or leave it before 1.40. If there is no Station in Green, they must go up fields if they come down before the quarter.

Caps

  1. Caps (only dark blue) may be worn in Dean’s Yard in College Street & on the way up Fields.

Order in School

  1. Everyone is to get into his own place when any Monitor comes up school, and to stand up during prayers.
  2. No-one to talk, whisper, or make any noise during prayers

The Eleven

  1. Fellows in wither Eleven or Eight under 16 will not ordinarily be tanned: but this privilege may be taken away from them by a majority of the School Council.
  2. The Captain of the Eleven, not being in the Sixth or Shell, cannot fag except up-fields. The same rule applies to the Head of Water and the Captain of the Football Eleven.
  3. The rest of the Eleven can make fellows field out, but cannot fag them.

Racquet-Court Rules

  1. Upper Elections & Town Boys in the Sixth & Shell over 16 have absolute priority in the Racquet Courts for their own use.
  2. Town Boys under 16 and Under Elections in the Sixth & Shell cannot turn off others, or be turned off themselves.
  3. All those who are subject to Station can be turned off by those who are not, if the same number wish to play in each case.
  4. Among equals 4 can turn off 3 or 2: -and on the wire court, 2 wires can turn off 4 woodens.
  5. The Eleven and Eight have no right as such.
  6. The Head of the Racquet Court cannot be turned off himself, but may turn off any one in his own form or any form below him.

Windows

  1. Every one who breaks a window must go immediately to the glazier, to get it repaired.

Bounds

  1. The following places are within bounds – Cloisters, Little Dean’s Yard, Great Dean’s Yard, Broad Sanctuary, Post-Office in Tothill st, Prince’s st as far as Lyon’s st, Margaret’s Church Yard, Westminster Hall, Old Palace Yard, Abingdon st, Great College st, Barton st as far as Davenfort’s, Tufton st & little Dean’s Yard Smith’s st on the way to baths, the road up fields when going there; – the following shops alone are in Bounds – Hodge’s, Hopkins’, Dobb’s, Lyon’s, Davenfort’s, Harvey’s, Miller’s, Ginger’s, Martin’s, Sutcliffe’s, Payne’s, Pond’s, Penton’s; private houses within bounds are excluded. Leave must be asked to get thing at Mantle’s. No fellow to get anything at fruit stalls, excluding the Potatoe man.

 

Finding the above rules had not been inserted by Rodocanachi, I thought, as they had received the approval of Scott, it would be better to put them in.

L.S. Bristowe Prin Op.

No. 194

Scott the other day spoke to the monitors. It was resolved that any fellow in the cricket or foot ball elevens or in the rowing eight, provided he were over 16, could not be tanned; nor could any fellow in the Shell – these rules tho’ not (I think) written down before as such, have however been generally considered so for some time.

                                Egerton G B Phillimore. Prin. Opp.

Oct. 1873

No. 182

After numerous “meetings of masters” Scott has issued the following Rules for Discipline”

  1. The only Boys entrusted with authority for general school purposes shall be the Captain, Three Monitors & Three Town Boy Monitors, who shall form a council to take cognizance of offences against morality & the discipline of the School.
  2. Seniors & Town Boys in the Sixth Form, provided they be over 16 years of age, shall hold a subordinate authority, & shall report offences to the council or Head Boy, but shall not be authorised themselves to inflict corporal punishment.
  3. The Town Boy Monitors shall be appointed from time to time by the Head Master in school, being always chosen from Boys in the VIth Form & as far as possible in different houses.
  4. The Head Boy of each Boarding House & of the Home Boarders, on the nomination of the House Master, shall receive authority to deal with offences arising within the House.
  5. All Boys invested with authority shall sign their names in the Head-Master’s Book.
  6. No authority can be delegated from one boy to another under any circumstances, but in the absence of any regularly appointed authority, the Head Boy present is bound to maintain order & discipline, & to report grave offences to the Captain or Head Boy.
  7. All such offences shall be submitted to the council of Monitors of which the Captain shall be President. & this council shall deliberate in private, no others being present except the accused & witnesses if required.
  8. All questions shall be decided by a majority of the council, nor shall any corporal punishment be used without the consent of a majority of the whole Body, one at least of such majority being a Town Boy.
  9. In the case of offences arising within College or a Boarding House no punishment shall be inflicted without a court of all Boys who may be invested in authority in those places respectively, previously holden to decide upon the case.
  10. No Boy shall be judge in his own cause, nor himself inflict corporal punishment where the offence is personal against himself.
  11. No Town Boy shall be sent for into College, nor Queen’s Scholar out of College for purposes of discipline.
  12. No corporal punishment shall be used without clear proof of the guilt of the offender, nor upon such grounds as that an offence must have been committed by one or more of a certain number; for in any case, except for grave moral offences; such as falsehood, dishonesty, impurity, profanity, bulling, resorting to public houses or other improper places, drinking, contumacious defiance of authority, or wilful breach of rules after warning given.
  13. No instrument of punishment shall be used other than a cane or light stick – not shall more than six cuts be given in any instance.
  14. In every case the offender shall, if he claim it, be allowed the option before being punished in any way of having the matter laid by the Captain or Head Boy before the Head Master or in College or House questions before the Master in charge: & the Master shall then deal
  15. The right to fag is vested in such Boys of the VIth Form & Shell as may be above 16 years of age. Boys in the Upper Vth may not fag, nor are they liable to be fagged. All below the Upper Vth are liable to be fagged. No boy in the Eleven at Cricket has any right to fag on that account, unless to pick up balls for him on the ground, up fields.

H.J. Roberts